DIESEL ROSTER A & W P RAILROAD
Number | Mf'gr | Model | Date |
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551 | EMD | FP-7 |   |
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552 | EMD | FP-7 |   |
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553 | EMD | FP-7 |   |
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554 | EMD | FP-7 |   |
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572 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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573 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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574 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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676 | EMD | DS-4-4-1000 |   |
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677 | EMD | DS-4-4-1000 |   |
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726 | EMD | GP-40 |   |
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**DIESEL PICTURES**
DIESEL ROSTER GEORGIA RAILROAD
Number | Mf'gr | Model | Date |
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753 | EMD | GP-40 |   |
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901 | EMD | SW-7 |   |
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902 | EMD | SW-7 |   |
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903 | EMD | SW-7 |   |
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904 | EMD | SW-7 |   |
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905 | EMD | SW-7 |   |
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906 | EMD | SW-7 |   |
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907 | BLW | SW-7 |   |
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1002 | BLW | FP-7 |   |
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1003 | EMD | FP-7 |   |
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1027 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1028 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1029 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1030 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1031 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1032 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1033 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1034 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1035 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1036 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1037 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1038 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1039 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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1040 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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6390 | EMD | GP-40 |   |
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DIESEL ROSTER W R A
Number | Mf'gr | Model | Date |
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522 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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523 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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524 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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525 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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526 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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531 | EMD | GP-9 |   |
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571 | EMD | GP-7 |   |
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621 | BLW | VO-1000 |   |
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630 | BLW | DS-4-4-1000 |   |
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701 | EMD | GP-40 |   |
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6795 | EMD | GP-40 |   |
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MODELING DETAILS-ATLANTA & WEST POINT
CRANES
Anyone know if the Atlanta & West Point or the Western Railway of
Alabama had any cranes? Any pictures posted anywhere?
Ron Jones
The West Point Route diagram book I have shows five cranes, No.s 1, 2, 3, 5,
and 7.
I have negatives of No. 5, and No. 6, which is not shown in my diagram book.
Bob Hanson
According to the GaRR Locomotive Diagram book published by the ACL/SAL HS
(or, as Denis says, the SAL/"that other road" HS), the A&WP had a 115 ton
Bucyrus wreck crane, #2, and the W of A had a 60 ton Industrial Works crane.
The date of this book is 1946 ...If you go to this page, you will see a list
of documents available-- mostly diagram books, but a start...
Jeff Scarbrough
FP7's
Guys, I'm modeling an A&WP FP7. The only pictures that I have available
are those in "Classic Diesels of the South." They are great shots, but I
can't be sure whether the grilles were Farr type or the F7 style that
ACL used on their FP7s. Can you A&WP gentlemen help me again?
Jim Roquemore
Farr is/was the name of a supplier of parts for EMD. I recall that all the
grilles of both types used on the F, FP, And E units were manufactured by
Farr. This has become a point of confusion in modeling circles
when some one refers to a "Farr" grille.
There are two types of Farr grilles used on all 3 types of cab units:
Grilles with horizontal fins and grilles with vertical fins. The fins are
the parallel metal slats between which the air is taken in to cool the
radiators. They are purely decorative and not adjustable. The horizontal
type was the earlier and on a FP7 there were 21 vertical supports for the
horizontal-running fins. There were only 4 visible vertical posts with the
vertical fin type. On a F-unit, these vertical posts divided the vertical
fins into 3 groups. This is what Athearn was apparently trying to copy
with their F7s. Vertically, the fins were supported by two horizontal
members which divide the grill, top to bottom, into 3 equal parts.
The ACL FP7s in the first order of 20 engines all had the horizontal fins.
Look at the middle photo on page 66 of Warren's fine book "Atlantic Coast
Line--the Diesel Years". It shows #881 clearly with the horizontal fins.
Note how they are grouped: starting at the cab is a double vertical post,
then 5 single posts, another double post, 1 single post, another double
post, 5 single posts, another double post, 5 more single posts, and,
finally, a double vertical post. Count the spaces between the double
posts: starting at the cab end, you get 6-2-6-6, standard for a FP7.
Note: a F7 would be 6-6-6.
I cannot cite any side views of ACL FP7s with the vertical fins, but
Warren's book shows photos of #s 885 and 893 which appear to have them.
Now, what kind of grilles are showing in your photos in "Classic Diesels of
the South"?
Wayne R. Long
PASSENGER CAR COLORS
We have a Gerrit Bruins color photo, c. late '50's,
which shows an A&WP heavyweight Pullman ("Lake Belanona")
in Albany, NY. The car was painted in a very dark blue
with a black roof. Imitation gold lettering was used, along
with a stripe along the bottom of the car and another stripe
just above the windows (but into the letter board).
unknown author...
MODELING DETAILS-GEORGIA RAILROAD
PAINT SCHEME DATES
Black/silver (Switcher-only scheme) - 1948 until about 1950 - not very long.
Blue/silver - Road units - 1948-1959
Switchers - 1950-1959
Solid blue, silver lettering - 1959-1967
Black, white lettering - 1967-1980
FL gray - 1980-1983
Not all units received all schemes. Lines South ran an article I wrote a
year or so back about the various schemes. I believe the issues (2-part
article) are still available. This included a matrix showing which units
received which schemes. Diesel Era also ran two articles - one by me and one
by our good friend Warren Calloway on the roster of the Georgia Road and
affiliates and reprinted the matrix. Unless I'm mistaken these issure are
still available as well. I'm Warren can tell you for certain as to their
availability.
Minor variations of the lettering arrangements and schemes abound, so the
best advice is to get a photo of the units - both sides - to work from when
modeling.
Bob Hanson
MODELING DETAILS
WESTERN RAILWAY of ALABAMA
I've been on sabbatical this summer from my work as an Episcopal priest in MN.
Among the things I've been doing has been traveling to Montgomery, AL and
interviewing retired Mtgy railroaders (especially WPR ones) for a video
documentary I'm working on. This morning, I met with Mr. Billy Hartley, who
worked in the WofA Paint Shop in Mtgy from 1950-1989. He said that for the
last 20 years that the Shops in Mtgy were open, he was the only painter in
the Paint Shop. I asked him about the paint colors they used. Since you have
such an excellent listing of colors on your site, I thought I'd pass this along.
I learned a few things, though not all of it is new. The passenger equipment
part was what I found especially interesting.
Steam: black with white lettering
Diesel: Dark blue with aluminum lettering
Hvyweight passenger equipment (pre-1950): Pullman green with aluminum lettering
Hvyweight passenger equipment (post-1950, but not all at once): dark blue with
aluminum lettering
Office cars: Pullman green with gold leaf lettering (delux gold towards the end)
He said that they made the decision to go blue when L&N began painting
their cars blue with yellow lettering. I saw the comment on your site
about the "Lake Beladona" being blue with gold lettering and stripes.
Mr. Hartley said nothing about this, but since I'm still in Montgomery,
I'll give him a call tomorrow and ask him.
Information by Andrew Waldo
MODEL PAINT MIXES for ALL ROADS
All the following color mixes are based on PollyScale Acrylics paint
numbers.
All bottle sizes are 1 fluid ounce size.
Capful refers to the
cap on the bottle.
HK=Herald King decals for reference only these are no longer available.
MS=Microscale Decals
C=Custom made on Alps Printer
Black/silver (Switcher-only scheme) - 1948 until about 1950 - not very long.
ROAD | A&WP, WRA & GA all
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Frame | Engine black 414110
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Trucks | Engine black 414110
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Body main color | Engine black 414110
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Body second color | none
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Body separator stripe | none
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Handrails | Signal Yellow 404085
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Stanchions | Engine black 414110
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Walkway | Engine black 414110
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Edge Walkway | Engine black 414110
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Lettering | Flat Alum 414299
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Number boards | black/white numbers
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Decals | MS 87-889
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Blue/silver - Road units - 1948-1959
Switchers 1950-1959
ROAD | A&WP, WRA & GA all
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Frame | Engine black 414110
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Trucks | Engine black 414110
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Body main color | ATSF Blue 414150
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Body second color | Bright Silver 501990
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Body separator stripe | none
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Handrails | Signal Yellow 404085
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Stanchions | ATSF Blue 414150
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Walkway | Engine black 414110
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Edge Walkway | Flat Alum 414299
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Lettering | Flat Alum 414299
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Number boards | black/white numbers
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Decals | MS 87-889
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Solid blue, silver lettering - 1959-1967
ROAD | A&WP, WRA & GA all
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Frame | Engine black 414110
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Trucks | Engine black 414110
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Body main color | ATSF Blue 414150
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Body second color | none
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Body separator stripe | none
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Handrails | Signal Yellow 404085
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Stanchions | ATSF Blue 414150
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Walkway | Engine black 414110
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Edge Walkway | Flat Alum 414299
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Lettering | Flat Alum 414299
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Number boards | black/white numbers
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Decals | MS 87-889
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Black, white lettering - 1967-1980
ROAD | A&WP, WRA & GA all
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Frame | Engine black 414110
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Trucks | Engine black 414110
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Body main color | Engine black 414110
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Body second color | none
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Body separator stripe | none
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Handrails | Signal Yellow 404085
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Stanchions | Engine black 414110
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Walkway | Engine black 414110
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Edge Walkway | Reefer White 414113
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Lettering | Reefer White 414113
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Number boards | black/white numbers
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Decals | MS 87-889
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