(CORRECTED) BILL-OF-MATERIALS FOR THE "GREEN" SOUTHERN GP7
CUSTOM FINISHES
111 BELL
229 ATS PICKUP SHOE
116 CAB SIGNAL BOX (RADIO EQUIPMENT BOX)REVISED FROM ORIGINAL)
DETAIL ASSOC
1709 CLEAR CLASSIFICATION LIGHTS
2202 GRAB IRONS (1 PACK)
2205 COUPLER LIFT BARS (2)
2206 LIFT RINGS (1 PACK)
2312 AIR DEFLECTORS (1 PACK)
2306 2-STRAP SIGNAL BOX(see optional box under custom finishes).
2312 CAB AIR DEFLECTORS (1 PACK)
2314 WINDSHIELD WIPERS (1 PACK)
2402 EXHAUST STACKS
2805 TRUCK BEARING JOURNALS, SQUARE TYPE
2806 TRUCK BEARING JOURNAKS, SLOPE TYPE
3002 GP7 SAND FILL HATCHES (1 PACK)
7103 RERAIL FROG (1 PACK)
DETAILS WEST
111 BREATHER PIPE (2)
157 ANTENNA (1)
172 UNDERFRAME WALK WAY LIGHTS (2)
265 MU HOSES (PACK OF 4)
268 AIR HOSES (PACK OF 2)
284 SPEED RECORDER (1 PACK)
MV PRODUCTS
LS 22 HEADLIGHTS (1 PACK)
OVERLAND MODELS, INC.
#9004 AIRHORN, 3-CHIME
SUNRISE
H-3001 CAB SUN SHADES
OTHER:
.012-INCH BRASS ROD (1 SECTION)
.015-INCH BRASS ROD (1 SECTION)
.019-INCH
JIM
AND HERE IS WHERE THOSE B/M PARTS WILL GO:
CALLOUTS
CALLOUTS
NOW THAT I HAVE GOTTEN INTO THE GREEN GP7 PROJECT I HAVE NOTED THAT THE WHITE SAFETY
STRIPES ON THE ENDS OF THE P2K MODEL IS DIFFERENT THAN SHOWN IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT
I UPLOADED TO THE FILES OF THIS GROUP. IN FACT, I CANNOT FIND PHOTOS (INCLUDING IN
THE BOOKS) THAT SHOW THESE STRIPES MATCHING THE P2K MODEL. THIS MEANS THAT I WILL
BE PAINT BLACK OVER THE PAINTED ON SAFETY STRIPES AND APPLYING DECALS TO MATCH THE
PROTOTYPE PHOTOS. OUR SIMPLE DETAIL PROJECT JUST GOT MORE DIFFICULT.
THIS MAKES ME WONDER ABOUT THE SAFETY STRIPES ON THE P2K MODEL. WAS THIS AN AS
DELIVERED ARRANGEMENT THAT WAS CHANGED IN THE MID TO LATE 1950S?
JIM SIX
JIM, THIS WAS A MISTAKE BY PROTO THAT WAS DISCUSSED ON ANOTHER LIST WHEN
THEY FIRST ARRIVED. THE BEST GUESS WAS THAT THEY SOMEHOW SAW THE STRIPE ENDS
AS BELONGING IN THE STEP WELLS INSTEAD OF ON THE PILOT EDGES. THE HORIZONTAL
STRIPE AT THE TOP OF THE PILOTS ON THE GP-7S IS ALSO MISSING. SO YES, THE
STEP WELL SIDES & THE PILOT ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE PAINTED BLACK & THE
PILOT DECALED. THE STEP EDGES SHOULD REMAIN WHITE. NOTE THAT THE STRIPES ARE
ONLY AROUND THE EDGES OF THE PILOT ON THE GP-7S. FOR SOME REASON THE PHOTOS
OF THE GREEN RS-3S ETC. HAVE THE ANGLED STRIPES GOING ALL THE WAY UP THE
PILOT FACE WITH NO TOP HORIZONTAL STRIPE. JUST ANOTHER EXCEPTION FOR US
MODELERS TO BE ON TOP OF. THE STRIPES CAN BE FOUND IN "MICROSCALE 87-878
SOUTHERN HOOD DIESELS 1940-1960". ON ANOTHER TOPIC, I CAN NOT GET THE FILE
OF INSTRUCTIONS TO DOWNLOAD. COULD YOU POSSIBLY POST THEM AS AN E-MAIL??
THANKS MIKE OLDHAM
FOLKS,
I APOLOGIZE, BUT I MADE AN ERROR IN THE BILL-OF-MATERIALS FOR THE GREEN GP7 PROJECT.
WELL, AT LEAST IT IS AN ERROR TO ME. WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN PREFERENCES, LIKES AND
DISLIKES. WHILE BOB PREFERS THE ETCHED BRASS CAB AIR DEFLECTORS (DA 2304) I DON'T.
MY PREFERENCE IS DETAIL ASSOCIATES (DA 2312) CLEAR PLASTIC AIR DEFLECTORS. WHEN I
MADE THE BILL-OF-MATERIALS I HAD COPIED AND PASTED BOB'S LIST, THEN MADE MY CHANGES.
I OVERLOOKED THE AIR DEFLECTORS.
YOU WILL HAVE TO DECIDE FOR YOURSELF WHICH YOU PREFER. SINCE YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY
ORDERED THE 2304 BRASS VERSIONS THIS MAY BE YOUR CHOICE. I JUST RE-ORDERED THE
CLEAR PLASTIC 2312 VERSION, WHICH MAY CAUSE A DELAY IN COMPLETING THE MODEL, BUT
PROBABLY NOT AS THEY MAY GET HERE BEFORE I AM READY FOR THEM ANYWAY.
SUCH IS LIFE IN PROTOTYPE MODELING. THERE ARE MANY DETAIL PARTS AVAILABLE AND IN
SOME CASES COMPETING VERSIONS OF THE SAME PROTOTYPE DETAIL AND IN THIS CASE,
COMPETING VERSIONS FROM THE SAME MANUFACTURER! WHEN BOB'S AND MY MODELS ARE
COMPLETE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE BOTH VERSIONS. YOU MAY WISH TO HOLD OFF AND STUDY
BOTH BEFORE MAKING A DECISION AS TO WHICH YOU WILL CHOOSE.
IN THE MEANWHILE I HAVE 4 PACKS OF DA 2304 ETCHED BRASS AIR DEFLECTORS IF SOMEBODY
WANTS THEM. LET ME KNOW.
JIM SIX
MAN, I AM LOSING IT. THANKS DON.
HOWEVER, . . . I MADE ANOTHER ERROR. I ORDERED THE WRONG HORN. I DID NOT HAVE
PHOTOS AT THE TIME THAT SHOWED THE HORNS AND "ASSUMED" THAT THE HORN THAT BOB
ORDERED WOULD BE CORRECT -- WRONG! JUST LAST EVENING I RECEIVED PROTOTYPE PHOTOS
THAT SHOW THE HORN AND . . . YOU GUESSED IT, MY ASSUMPTION HAS GOTTEN US THE WRONG
HORN. 8-(
THE CORRECT HORN IS OVERLAND #9014
BUT, . . . THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE HORN NEEDED. IT DEPENDS UPON WHICH PROTOTYPE
LOCOMOTIVE YOU ARE MODELING. IT TURNS OUT THAT THEY DID NOT ALL HAVE THE SAME HORN.
THIS OVERLAND HORN IS ONE OF THE TWO TYPES I HAVE DISCOVERED. THE OTHER TYPE
MATCHES THE HORN THAT COMES ON THE P2K MODEL!!! LORD, SOMETHING IS GOING RIGHT! IF
YOU MODEL THE 6244 OR A MATCHING LOCOMOTIVE THE P2K HORN APPEARS CORRECT, BUT WILL
HAVE TO BE TURNED AROUND AND RELOCATED SLIGHTLY. IF YOU MODEL THE 2172, 2174, OR
2180, THEN THE OVERLAND #9014 HORN IS CORRECT.
THERE IS YET ANOTHER "HITCH" TO THIS. THE 6244 HAS DIFFERENT PILOTS. INSTEAD OF
THE SLOPED PILOTS IT HAS THE LATER MU-HOSE POCKET PILOTS DETAIL ASSOCIATES
#2208.THIS MEANS THAT THE SLOPE PILOTS WILL NEED TO BE REMOVED AND THE DA PILOTS
INSTALLED IN THEIR PLACE. I HAVE DECIDED TO DO JUST THAT ON ONE OF MY TWO MODELS
(SINCE I HAVE ONLY ONE OVERLAND #9014 HORN ON HAND!). I WILL BE SURE TO TAKE GOOD
PHOTOS OF BOTH VERSIONS AND WRITE CLEAR TEXT EXPLAINING ALL OF THIS.
SHEIKS, . . . BUT SOMETIMES PROTOTYPE MODELING CAN BE FRUSTRATING. THIS IS WHY I
"TRY" TO NEVER WORK FROM DATA, BUT ONLY PHOTOGRAPHS. THIS TIME I FELT THE PRESSURE
OF BOB AND HIS BLACK GP7 GETTING AHEAD OF ME AND I MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAVE
CAUSED THIS "BUMP IN THE ROAD." I SURE HOPE Y'ALL WILL FORGIVE ME AND NOT
ABANDON YOUR GREEN GP7 PROJECTS. WE WILL SEE THIS THROUGH TO THE GLORIOUS END.
JIM SIX
DOESN'T THE HORN PLACEMENT AT LEAST ON SOME LOCOS RELATE TO THOSE THAT
HAD STEAM GENERATORS?
DON YELVERTON
I AM SURE IT DID, BUT THE PHOTOS I AM MODELING FROM ARE ALL OF NON-BOILER, FREIGHT
ONLY LOCOS. THE WITHERS SOUTHERN DIESELS BOOK SHOWS SOME PHOTOS OF THE GREEN GP7S
WITH BOILERS AND THE HORNS DO NOT APPEAR TO BE CONSISTENT.
PAGE-123 NEAR BOTTOM: HERE SOU 6202 SHOWS NO HORN AT ALL. I SUSPECT THAT IT IS ON
THE SIDE OF THE SHORT HOOD NEAR THE ROOF AND IS A OVERLAND #9014 TYPE HORN, BUT THIS
WOULD BE AN ASSUMPTION.
PAGE-125 BOTTOM: HERE SOU 8213 UNIT HAS THE OVERLAND #9014 TYPE HORN ON THE SIDE OF
THE LONG HOOD UP NEAR THE ROOF.
THE DYNAMIC BRAKE GREEN GP7S APPEAR TO HAVE THE SMALL 3-CHIME HORN (2 FORWARD
TRUMPETS AND ONE FACING BACK) THAT BOB IS USING ON HIS BLACK GEEP. STILL OTHER
PHOTOS SHOW NO HORN AT ALL AND AS SUCH, I SUSPECT THAT THESE TOO THE HORN ON THE
SIDE OF THE SHORT HOOD NEAR THE ROOF AND IS A OVERLAND #9014 TYPE HORN. JUST NO
PROOF.
IF ANYONE HAS PHOTOS TO SHARE OF THE GREEN GP7S WE WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU
SHARING WITH US.
JIM SIX
JIM, THANKS FOR POSTING THE FIRST PART OF THE TEXT. ANOTHER SEMI MYSTERY I
AM SEEING IN THE PHOTOS IS THE FUEL TANK ASSIGNMENT. IN THE GREEN PROJECT
PHOTOS ENGINE #S 2174 & 2180 HAVE THE FULL SIZE FUEL TANK BUT IN WARREN`S
PHOTO OF #2177 IN BLACK IT SEEMS TO HAVE THE SMALLER FUEL TANK BUT I CAN`T
QUITE MAKE IT OUT. I WONDER IF THEY WERE CHANGING TANK SIZES OR JUST
ORDERING A MIX OF THEM ACCORDING TO THE ENGINE`S INTENDED ASSIGNMENT. ANYONE
HAVE ANY INFO ON THIS?? THANKS MIKE OLDHAM
MIKE,
YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT. EVEN AMONG THE GREEN GP7S SOME (NON-BOILER) HAD FULL
SIZE 1600 GALLON FUEL TANKS WHILE OTHERS HAD THE SMALLER 800 AND 900 GALLON TANKS.
WHAT I DO IS NOT ONLY WORK FROM PHOTOS, BUT I TRY TO WORK FROM PHOTOS THAT WERE
TAKEN IN THE "TIME FRAME" THAT I AM MODELING. WITH THE GREEN GP7S THIS IS PROVING
DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE ARE SO FEW PHOTOS AVAILABLE. IT DOES APPEAR THOUGH THAT THE
PHOTOS I HAVE ON HAND WERE TAKEN IN THE MID-TO-LATE 1950S.
MAYBE WARREN CALLOWAY, BOB GRAHAM, OR ANOTHER PERSON WITH PLENTY OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT
THIS TOPIC WILL CHIME IN AND ENLIGHTEN US.
JIM SIX
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